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216-TNG Radio – Sean O’Toole 3-12-11

Friday, March 11th, 2011


Sean O’Toole

Founder, ForeclosureRadar

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This week Bruce is joined by Sean O’Toole. Sean is president and founder of ForeclosureRadar. He has successfully purchased and flipped over 150 commercial and residential properties in foreclosure. He has leveraged the software industry for 15 years to make a successful trustee sale business.

Sean does not believe we will see a growth in REOs in 2011. He believes we should see a growth in REOS, but we won’t. Since September 2008, when the financial world drastically changed, foreclosures have just been trickling out. He thinks this fact is due to bank and financial institution solvency.

Sean tracks the amount of time a property remains in the foreclosure process. In California, that time period is now up to 285 days, but it should only take 120 days. The average delinquency period for homes before reaching the foreclosure process is 334 days. If you add 334 days on top of the 285 days for the foreclosure process, it is a long period of time.

Some bills are being suggested right now to end the HAMP program and the Neighborhood Stabilization program. Sean believes those programs have been largely irrelevant from the beginning. In California, the total amount of money given to neighborhood stabilization was equivalent to one week of foreclosures. The billions of dollars spent on these programs seems like a lot of money, but when you look at the big picture, it really is not.

Sean’s company created a short sale tool because he wanted to give realtors and homeowners a way to see if certain lenders are approving short sales or not. Sean believes this is a very important resource, and he will be promoting it a lot this year. Wachovia was very good at approving short sales last year, and realtors that focused on Wachovia deals were able to perform more deals than other realtors.

ForeclosureRadar has also added multiple title related services. These services are primarily for auction investors who are interested in the state of a property. ForeclosureRadar offers links to county indexes, and webinars to train investors on how to look up title issues and figure out whether or not you are buying a first or second. Knowing the position of your loan is critical, because if you buy a second then you still have to pay for the first.

The average opening bid at the end of January 2011 was $254,000, and at the beginning it was $261,000. At the end of January average, about 80% go back to the bank, so that price range is still too high for most buyers. The average debt of a foreclosure by the end of January 2011 was $397,000, and at the beginning of the year it was $385,000. We have not seen a big change in the kind of inventory being foreclosed on.

The average opening bid for a foreclosure property is 15% above market value. Properties purchased by third parties are typically 25% below market value. If a lender successfully sells at a trustee sale, they typically take a 43% hit. Sean still sees properties going for sale at 50% of what they are worth. This is why programs like HAMP have been so ineffective in high equity states like California and Florida, because the problem is not payment affordability, the problem is the fact that they are 50% under water. When their payment adjusts back to a full rate, they will still not have the income level necessary to pay off their house. Also, unemployment and job transfers can occur which severely dampens a family’s ability to pay.

Lenders have not discovered whether or not drop bids, short sales, or REO sales make the maximum profit, and Sean does not think they are too concerned about that. Many things are controlled by servicers who do not suffer a loss from the losses they help cause.

FHA is developing a program for short refis. Obama is supportive of these programs to keep people in their homes, but on the other hand, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are concerned with maintaining equity.

A 30 page document just came out which discussed the future of financing. The goal of the document was to tell people that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will not exist. Sean believes this would be a good thing. He does not like our current 0% interest rate policy. We have baby boomers close to retirement, and they cannot make a decent living on fixed income in a zero interest rate environment. You could have saved a million dollars, but if you put it into something with nearly zero risk, such as a T Bill, you would be living off of $30,000 per year.

The U.S. has $14 trillion in debt right now. We have 115 million households, but only half of those households pay taxes. Of those tax payers, the top 20% pay about 80% of all taxes.

Currently, banks are being incentivized to push commercial foreclosures into the future, rather than deal with them now. The FDIC would be insolvent if they had to get rid of foreclosures in a timely matter. We have changed the accounting rules from mark-to-market to mark-to-model. The mark-to-model philosophy is driven by the idea that certain assets will increase in the future, which encourages businesses to set aside less for loan loss reserves.

As a nation, we went from a 45% debt to equity ratio, so we had 4.5 trillion dollars worth of residential mortgage debt on 10 trillion dollars of real estate. At the peak, we went to 10.5 trillion dollars worth of mortgage debt on a false market value of 20 trillion dollars. That market value was fictitious, and our market value is down to 13$ trillion, but we still have about $10 trillion in debt. We created about $4 trillion in excess debt, which we fundamentally do not have the proper level of household income to afford. In California, we have 2.8 million homeowners who either have negative equity or don’t have enough equity to sell their house and pay commissions. In Nevada, the loan to value ratio is 123%. They owe 23% more in their mortgages than what their real estate is worth.

The next big pile of REOs will probably come from HUD. FHA has a program to perform short sale refis. It required the lender to take at least a 10% hit, and a loan to value rate of at least 115%. FHA would provide government insurance on a loan up to 115% of the house’s value for the purpose of refinancing, so long as the lender would take a 10% principal loss. They have had difficulty getting this program off the ground, and now they are talking about ending the program.

Sean believes real estate prices will decline this year. However, Sean is a believer in holding real estate. He also believes the only way out of our debt problem is inflation, and real estate is a good investment during inflationary times.

Sean’s website is www.ForeclosureRadar.com

For more information about The Norris Group’s California hard money loans or our California Trust Deed investments, visit the website or call our office at 951-780-5856 for more information. For upcoming California real estate investor training and events, visit The Norris Group website and our California investor calendar. You’ll also find our award-winning real estate radio show on KTIE 590am at 6pm on Saturdays or you can listen to over 170 podcasts in our free investor radio archive.

190-TNG Radio – Peter Wayman 9-4-10

Friday, September 3rd, 2010

Andrew-Waite

Peter Wayman

Senior REO Sales Director for Freddie Mac


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September 17th, 2010, The Norris Group returns with its award winning event I Survived Real Estate 2010. The Norris Group has assembled an incredible line up of industry experts to discuss the state of REO from the inside. Topics will include regulatory intervention and aftermath, bulk buying, myths and facts, and opportunities emerging for real estate professionals. 100 percent of the proceeds support the Orange County affiliate of Susan G. Komen for the Cure. This event would not be possible without generous help from the following platinum partners: Foreclosure Radar and Sean O’Toole, the San Diego Creative Real Estate Investors Association and Bill Tan, Investors Workshops and Shawn Watkins and Angel Bronsgeest, Invest Club for Women and Iris Veneracion and Bobby Alexander, Claudia Buys Houses, The Business Press, Frye Wiles, MVT Productions, and White House Catering.

This week Bruce is joined by Peter Wayman. Peter is the Senior REO Sales Director for Freddie Mac. He oversees the design of sales strategies and how those strategies are applied across the REO portfolio. His group oversees the retail sales process, auctions and investor sales. Peter is responsible for the Affordable Housing Strategy: selling homes to organizations engaged in neighborhood stabilization. Peter came to Freddie Mac with 32 years of executive relocation experience. In that position, he has won national awards and is in the hall of fame.

The major product offered by the relocation industry has been the purchase of the transferee’s home. Peter is accustomed to valuing and selling on a cost plus basis. He does not have to foreclose and evict transferees, but he does have to call executives of companies and tell them the value of their homes. The relocation industry operates globally.

Freddie Mac’s primary method for selling homes is to put them in the hands of great brokers. Also, special incentives are offered to owner occupants to encourage purchasing. Freddie Mac’s focus is to make home buying possible, and to do that by positioning their homes fairly for owner occupants. To effectively use this strategy, homes must be conditioned for financing, buyer’s closing costs must be addressed, and home warrantee programs are offered as well. Freddie is biased towards getting owner occupants into homes.

History shows that if an owner occupant lives in a house, their occupancy improves their neighborhood. Freddie Mac is concerned with neighborhood stabilization. When owner occupants invest their money into a house, they connect more with the community and have more pride in their community.

In 2009, Freddie Mac ended the year with 71% of its homes going to owner occupants. This year, we are slightly under that percentage. We are in a prime selling season now, and Freddie Mac is finishing one of their special programs for owner occupants.

The ratio of 70:30 for owner occupants to other types of owners is considered acceptable by Freddie Mac. Freddie realizes that some of their properties are not currently suitable for occupants. Freddie puts the Neighborhood Stabilization funds into the hands of an NSP grantee for properties in bad condition. The NSP grantee uses the funds to renovate the home, add green energy options to it, and then sell it to an affordable buyer. These homes often receive $30,000 in renovations, which is not something that many private investors can do. Most of these funds are targeting extremely hard hit areas and some homes are even being considered for tear down.

Not all investors do a bad job of renovating properties, but Freddie Mac has to deal with a wide scope of investors. Freddie Mac considers responsible investors to be a viable option for getting rid of inventory.

NSP funds are delivered from a city or county. The largest portions of the funds come from the federal government, but state governments, land banks, and non-profit associations are also engaged in neighborhood stabilization. Freddie Mac is open to working with all of these companies.

Companies with NSP funds have an advantage when looking for properties owned by Freddie Mac. Freddie Mac uses an NCST (National Community Stabilization Trust), which provides access to grantees with NSP funds. The NCST works with a large number of grantees and servicers. It creates an interchange which shows all of the servicer’s properties on a google-type map. The grantees may then look to see if there are properties being offered in their designated census tracks for neighborhood stabilization. They then immediately have the opportunity to ask the servicer for a home’s price. All of this happens during the pre-list phase of moving REO inventory, so grantees have the opportunity to view properties while Freddie Mac is still valuing the properties.

Some cities have had trouble spending their funds for damaged properties. This may be due to the difference in reaction time when compared to a private investor. Some of the NSP-1 funds had to be committed as of today, but there are also NSP-2 and NSP-3 funds. Each grantee takes a different approach on assembling their programs. Some of them got started more quickly than others.

Freddie Mac has been heavily involved in the modification process and in foreclosure alternatives. Peter believes those two tools are becoming much more effective, because the servicers and Freddie Mac are developing more effective automation. Also, staff training has improved, and the real estate community is becoming more educated. All of these things have helped make modifications and foreclosure alternatives more effective.

Banks are beginning to address serious delinquencies. At the end of the 4th quarter of 2009, serious delinquencies peaked at 4.13 percent of all mortgages. This percentage has been coming down for 5 months in a row.

We are also seeing the REO inventory increasing. In January 2009, we had 21,000 REO homes, and in January 2010, we had 45,000. At the end of July 1st, we had 62,000 REOs. That 62,000 represents inventory in redemption, eviction, pre-list, listed, sold and going into closing. Generally speaking, over 50 percent of REO inventory is in redemption, eviction, and pre-list. That number is currently closer to 55 percent.

Peter believes it has been proven that losses are lessened by modifications. The sooner you address the problem, the lower the costs are in the process. A foreclosure should be considered a last resort.

Modifications had a 60 percent failure rate. Peter believes that as the modification process has gone to using written verification and careful coaching, the failure rate has gone down.

In September, Peter will be a part of the I Survived Real Estate 2010 panel. He will be speaking in front of about 400 eager investors, who will be trying to figure out how to get their share of Freddie Mac’s properties, and possibly even get a chance at a bulk purchase.

Peter is very excited to work with this charity program. Freddie Mac has to be primarily concerned with getting rid of properties at the lowest cost to the tax payer. Freddie Mac has discovered that nothing works better than listing properties with a great real estate broker, exposing it to the entire market, having a property priced and conditioned right, and allowing that exposure to drive a retail sale within 90 to 120 days. This focus tends to work extremely well. There are some assets that do not sell within that time frame. When assests don’t sell well, Freddie Mac turns to ballroom auctions and online auctions, and finally to bulk sales for investors. Investor bulk sales are not perceived as having the highest potential recovery rate. Less than 0.5 percent goes through bulk investor sales. Freddie Mac is currently developing a better strategy for bulk sales. There should be more bulk sale activity in the future.

Some states have different real estate problems, and there are some problems that necessitate different solutions. In Florida, Freddie Mac has a waver on REO condo requirements, so Florida condos make great candidates for bulk sales. Properties with Chinese drywall, low values, no insurance options, no occupancy certificates, or environmental problems will be more likely to end up in a bulk sale. Lots of investors contact Freddie Mac asking to buy all the $200,000 properties in California and Arizona. Peter responds to those investors saying, “You mean all those properties that I get multiple offers on within the first two weeks of being listed on the market?” Freddie Mac does not need investors to buy those properties.

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